Imperial Steets Set - Lots of Warped Streets

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Re: Imperial Steets Set - Lots of Warped Streets

Post by Alarian » Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:02 pm

Thanks for all the advice. I haven't had a chance yet to do any attempts at flattening yet, but I did lay the pieces all out on the table and after 2 days, most of the lesser warped ones seem to flattened out on their own. I still have 24 pieces though that are going to take some more work. I'll give an update on whatever method(s) I end up using and how well they did or didn't work once I have a bit of free time.

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Re: Imperial Steets Set - Lots of Warped Streets

Post by Oldent » Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:29 am

William wrote:Lacquers are oil based, Enamels are either.
Do a google search on paint types.

At this point I think we have thoroughly confused everyone reading this.

All I can suggest is please just test one piece before you dive into a big batch. ;)
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A jig will save time. Soap is a wetting agent and may effect the paint. A Wetting agent works better in hot water. Did I mention I always get unpainted so I don't know if it will effect the paint.
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Re: Imperial Steets Set - Lots of Warped Streets

Post by William » Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:33 pm

Lacquers are oil based, Enamels are either.
Do a google search on paint types.

At this point I think we have thoroughly confused everyone reading this.

All I can suggest is please just test one piece before you dive into a big batch. ;)
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Re: Imperial Steets Set - Lots of Warped Streets

Post by lostpict » Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:28 pm

Acrylics are the most common lacquers (as opposed to enamels, oils, etc.), but he may be referring to a different lacqer formulation than the fast drying acryllics used by most toy manufacturers.
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Re: Imperial Steets Set - Lots of Warped Streets

Post by GODofwar » Sat Jan 30, 2016 7:50 pm

AnimeSensei wrote:Stefan says they use lacquers at the factory, not acrylics.
So are lacquers more or less vulnerable to hot water? I'm guessing more, based on the origin of lacquers.

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Re: Imperial Steets Set - Lots of Warped Streets

Post by AnimeSensei » Sat Jan 30, 2016 7:41 pm

Stefan says they use lacquers at the factory, not acrylics.
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Re: Imperial Steets Set - Lots of Warped Streets

Post by lostpict » Sat Jan 30, 2016 6:23 pm

A quick immersion in hot water is unlikely to hurt them. If these were mine, I would use a piece of lumber the right width to make the walls sstraightforward, mount 5 or 6 at a time, immerse them in hot water until the walls soften a bit, and the transfer them into a cold container to set the new shape. I checked the softening point for acrylic paints and it is in the range of 185 to 220 F, so I would try first with water around 150 and go up to a max of 180F. I also use dish washing detregent to lubricate the parts for inserting the spacer. Good luck.
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Re: Imperial Steets Set - Lots of Warped Streets

Post by GODofwar » Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:45 pm

lostpict wrote:I am am a materials engineer with a polymers background and have used both heat guns, hair dryers, and hot water to fix lots of thermoplastic minis (& other less fun things) over the years. The key is to heat the part just enough so that you can manipulate the part to the desired shape and then rapidly cool it so that the the polymer chains freeze where you want them. You may find that you have to overbend the parts a bit when hot since the viscoelastic nature of polymers allows them to gradually resume their old shape. Care must be taken not to damage the mini or paint in the process and not burn yourself.
Lostpict, I've got probably 80 painted castle foundations with walls bowed slightly to badly.

1-Will soaking in hot water destroy the paint?

2-Will immersion in cold water after a hot soak destroy the paint?

3-Am I going to need a jig to straighten these buggers out? One by one is going to take a loooong time.

Thank you in advance.

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Re: Imperial Steets Set - Lots of Warped Streets

Post by GODofwar » Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:38 pm

Oldent wrote:
lostpict wrote:I have one painted Imperial and one Wargamer Street sets. About 6 straights were warped. I bent them back into shape with my hands. After two weeks only one has rewarped - I will tackle it with a heatgun. Good luck.
I want to caution everyone again about the heat gun. Even with a laser thermometer it is hard to heat the tile evenly. I like boiling water best.

I like Hot water because it is easy to manipulate the part while its hot. A redo is much faster if it does not work the first time.
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What does hot water do to paint jobs?

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Re: Imperial Steets Set - Lots of Warped Streets

Post by AnimeSensei » Sat Jan 30, 2016 3:55 pm

I have baked a KS1 piece because my Chamber of Sorrows paint job came out tacky, and the Liquitex Glossies paint mentioned baking it to harden the paint. I did it at 200 degrees; it didn't hurt the tile but it didn't fix the tackiness either (but a spray laquer did!). Just a FYI.

If you do use the oven, just make sure the pan and the piece are both not close to flame or heating coils.
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