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Re: Rescuing delaminated resin water tiles with Vitrail/Prisme paints

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:04 am
by pacarat
IMO, the issue is not to seal the edges, but to get the whitish grey colored “fogginess” removed. That fog is (obviously) the result of the separation of clear resin from opaque rock layer, causing light to reflect/refract differently than the sealed areas.

Two options in my mind - insert/inject new clear material into separated space, or mask over by adding a green transparent layer to back side of clear layer.

Been busy with RL lately so haven’t done any more experiments.

Re: Rescuing delaminated resin water tiles with Vitrail/Prisme paints

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:16 am
by AnimeSensei
I'm no expert at this, but maybe just an acrylic sealer?

Re: Rescuing delaminated resin water tiles with Vitrail/Prisme paints

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:08 pm
by Riley
Sealing the edges also sounds promising. But I have never done such a thing, and wouldn’t know what to use.

Re: Rescuing delaminated resin water tiles with Vitrail/Prisme paints

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:53 pm
by Vegomatic
Multiple coats?
The first coat dried... shrank and settled in place... perhaps a second coat will help?
The delamination is already there. What can it hurt to try?

Re: Rescuing delaminated resin water tiles with Vitrail/Prisme paints

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:47 pm
by pacarat
Same here - once mine dried, they reverted a bit. Not perfect, but less noticeable than original.

Re: Rescuing delaminated resin water tiles with Vitrail/Prisme paints

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:14 pm
by zenako
I personally think the problem is more deep. Once you begin to delaminate something, it is very hard to restore the original bond or interface. Letting paint/dye/ink infiltrate into the bond gap can comestically hide the problem, but you now have a new fluid/substance in between the layers that will attack the bond over time.

I work with some electromagnetic devices that have laminated motors and were potted/sealed with an epoxy sealant. Once a crack or separation begins to form it can be almost impossible to ever really dry it out. (I mean we put them into heated vacuum ovens for weeks and still fluid will ooze out.) Putting some sealing material around the edge might help prevent new fluids/moisture from entering, but it will also block any existing fluid/moisture from escaping as readily as well. The ink attempt does make the delamination less obvious and that was the goal the whole time anyway so that is good.

Re: Rescuing delaminated resin water tiles with Vitrail/Prisme paints

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:02 pm
by Riley
AnimeSensei wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:38 pm
Did you seal the edges?
Any suggestions for choice of sealant?

Re: Rescuing delaminated resin water tiles with Vitrail/Prisme paints

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:38 pm
by AnimeSensei
Did you seal the edges?

Re: Rescuing delaminated resin water tiles with Vitrail/Prisme paints

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:22 pm
by astolat
So, a bit of bad news, the fix isn't stable.

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/06wnejnk8rub5 ... 1.jpg?dl=0

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/d6oxfyqvf01z7 ... 1.jpg?dl=0

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/ga24kh30hm76d ... 6.jpg?dl=0

It's still an improvement over the original, but not as good as when first fixed.

Re: Rescuing delaminated resin water tiles with Vitrail/Prisme paints

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:39 pm
by AnimeSensei
JalanDa wrote:
Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:52 pm
someone in the dwarven forge facebook group fixed mine. he had a vaccum casting device and sealed mine with a new coat of resin
:o