Leveling Up!

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Re: Leveling Up!

Post by zenako » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:34 am

Oh and the commentary along the way with MonoChrome and his lackeys was hilarious. Grown boys get to play with toys too!!

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Re: Leveling Up!

Post by zenako » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:31 am

Outstanding John D!!! That is a clever and effective use of materials. Seems to almost leverage off the terrain tray concept of using moderately sized sheets of steel to support structures. I know that was how I did some serious elevation, but this allows you to be far more efficient in using your actual DF pieces and not having to use tons of them just to elevate. (Assuming one does not have some rather useful foam blocks...)

If you have a power drill (with grinding attachment), or grinding wheel, that might have been a lot quicker than sanding all those plates.

Do you find the magnets on the sloped topped supports (which are one of the neatest things in this) work well to hold those plates in place when loaded with DF? I would be tempted to create some small wedge inserts to fill the gaps at the top and bottoms of the ramps when they do not align with other DF parts closely. (Also been looking at that with ramp schemes that mate with docks as well!), since I do not plan of carving up some DF tiles to create a tighter bond.

Your 6" (multiple of 3") scheme will also work well with the Forest Tiles from the KS I believe. That should allow for some interesting combos with the Mountain set.
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Re: Leveling Up!

Post by hunter_something » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:16 am

John D wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:33 am
Going wide for the finish.ROTA 05.jpg
That's some amazing work! Nicely conceived & executed!!!

You mentioned using a couple different strength magnets - are the stronger ones in the base, the weaker ones on the tops? (for the angled pieces)

Any chance you could post a close-up of where the ramped terrain meets the level terrain?

I was just thinking of trying to make myself an elevation system, but my thinking wasn't anywhere near as cool as what you've done here. I was thinking of 3D printing some 4" elevation blocks, mimicking the height of the DoD elevation blocks. (I have a ton of filament to use up.) I still think that could be cool and useful, but storage wise your setup is vaaaastly superior.

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Re: Leveling Up!

Post by John D » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:09 am

dice4hire wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:27 am
Looks like a lot of work, but well worth it. You will be able to do some amazing things!!!!
Thanks, Dice. It was more work than I expected, but a lovely light at the end of the tunnel. :D

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Re: Leveling Up!

Post by John D » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:43 am

The idea for this one occurred to me as I was building everything else.

It's footprint is a mere 2'x2'. One Woodlands set and some pieces I made out of Sculpy Clay and texture stamps (courtesy of a few Happy Seppuku KS's).
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Here's the underside
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I made these clay houses back when we were waiting for CBS to ship. They're 3"x 3" because 4"x 4" pieces kept breaking down the middle. I use them for Halfling/Gnome villages.
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The little stream is really the same stamp offset from piece to piece.
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Monochrome conducts the local Choir. Lets peek in at a rehearsal -
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"Allrighty then... Laurel, I want you to come right up to the edge there for your solo. Don't worry, if you fall the Swamp Troll will catch you. By the way Swamp Troll what have you been drinking? I can smell it from here..
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"Double Gator, those harmonies are amazing! We should just ditch this whole thing and hit the road Martin & Lewis style.
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"Band members, who would believe we could do this with just a Flute and Anvil. You guys are Tops!
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"okay, let's bring in everyone for a run thru...
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and a one and two and..
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All: "I Am the Very Model of a Modern Major-General...."
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Cheers :D

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Re: Leveling Up!

Post by John D » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:33 am

ROTA Rules!

Here we have 2 ROTA I's and 1 ROTA II.
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Monochrome would like me to point out that 3 Sq. Feet isnt that much coverage, so instead of the 3'x3' board used in the previous post, we're going to cut down to a 2'x3' board.
We'll start by building up from the back a bit.
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I changed it up a little as I started filling it in.
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Let's swing around to the front...Oh, I know! Let's raise the entire build up a floor (this took maybe five minutes) and add another ramp.
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Going wide for the finish.
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Here's what it looks like after I removed the ROTA pieces.
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This build used maybe a third of the Elevation stash, and was surprisingly quick. I really like it.

but wait, there's one last bit....

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Re: Leveling Up!

Post by dice4hire » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:27 am

Looks like a lot of work, but well worth it. You will be able to do some amazing things!!!!
A pretty decent Docent of Valoria

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Re: Leveling Up!

Post by John D » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:23 am

Part II (or The Cobwebs of my Mind)
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6 months ago, when I started thinking about this, there were three images that sprang to mind as a kind of 'wish list' of what I wanted to accomplish with Elevations. These became my goals as I began configuring the dimensions and quantities I would ultimately need.

[Quick side note: playing around with Erinthor Mts. also contributed heavily to the planning stage. I regret I haven't finished painting my Erinthor pieces yet, but perhaps by summer I can present some of the ways I intend to use them].

Anyway, here's what I was shooting for-

The Splash
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The Downward Spiral
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To be honest, this isn't quite right. Also, this build took an entire day, as I kept breaking it down and changing my approach. It's tricky, but I think I just need to mess around with the idea a bit more.
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The Slope
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Am I the only one who sees a late 60's Lamborghini?
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This Build, by the way, used almost every piece I have. You can see what was left in the bottom right corner.
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Nice, but how about we start putting some DF down on top?
be right back....

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Leveling Up!

Post by John D » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:15 am

Here's the project that ate January -
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(You'll notice some scratches and dings on the steel plates, and uneven staining on the posts. Everything will get a Final Coat in the spring - right now, the weather outside is frightful)

From a conversation that began on the KS6 comment thread with Sir Geekjeff and other backers, I started to envision the Elevation System of my Dreams. After a bit of back and forth with the local Home Depot, I put together a small test run of the set presented here. Then, I coerced a neighboring carpenter (who also made the Boards for me a while back) into cutting the steel and wood pieces, and I drilled, filed, sanded, glued magnets, stained, and primed. I expected it would take about a week - it took a month. About halfway thru I thought I may have gone a bit overboard, but once I began building I realized the amount was just about right for the kind of flexibility I was looking for. In fact, I need just a few more posts.

So, let's start with the brass tacks (figuratively speaking, as there are brass tacks on the edges of the boards).
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The Wooden Posts are fitted with Neodymium Magnets on both sides - there are 2 different strengths of magnets on each post - one strong, and one weak. I wanted them to have a bit of 'give', so that adjusting them didn't pull too hard on the rest of the build. This turned out to be a good idea, and manipulating the posts into position is pretty easy.
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All of the posts are 1"x1" wide. The 3 Flat-top heights are 3 1/2", 2", and 1 1/2" . The carpenter went south for the winter, but when he gets back this spring I think I'll hit him up for a dozen more of each. At 4 posts per platform they go pretty quickly.
The two Angle-top posts reach the heights 2" and 1 1/2" (a 1 1/2" Angle on top of a 2" Flat would reach 3 1/2"). The angles are specifically designed for a 6" long ramp, tho they also work nicely for a more gradual 8" ramp. At 2 posts per ramp, I think I have plenty.
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Here's what's directly behind me as I'm taking these pictures. Cracked me up when I noticed.
Oh, I should also mention that the Stain I'm using is a polyurethane Red Mahogany that matches the edges of the Boards (or rather Will match, by the final coat).

On the Right we have the steel plates.
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I found a 6"x18" Sheet Metal Plain Steel which is very sturdy (16 gauge), from Home Depot and fairly affordable (about 6 bucks a sheet). The pieces cut from these sheets maintain the 6" side but then things get a little crazy.
Here's the size/quantity breakdown:
6"x 12" (6)
x 10" (6)
x 8" (8)
x 6" (8)
x 4" (8)
x 3" (8)
x 2" (12) - these are primarily used for the ramps

I kept the 6" side consistent to make it easier for the carpenter, but it turns out this was a pretty good idea. As I started building, I noticed I could always spot the 6" side, and measurements could be eyeballed quickly. It's a bit hard to convey with words and pictures, but definitely makes things easier to organize.
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There's a racing stripe down the middle but the lighting's off..
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I filed and sanded the hell out of the edges (that took over a week by itself), and rounded all the corners. If anyone's interested, I can go into detail about that process, but suffice it to say they're perfectly smooth and handling them is a breeze.

I primed the steel sheets flat black on one side, then a fancier 'hammered steel' on the other. I thought all that gray was too dismal, so I added a chestnut racing stripe to 2 sheets of each size (4 for the 2" since there are so many). It's a bit hard to spot in the pictures here, but... Oh, Thanks Monochrome!
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Piling up elevations then follows exactly as you would expect, although I will say there are elements that I've come across that have surprised me.
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The stain will match once I get around to the final coat
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Overall, there's a ...'unity' to the pieces which allows for real creativity in the builds. Using this set doesn't feel like a chore - it's very sturdy, comfortable, and fun to use.

Hit it, Monochrome!
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"I can see for miles and miles
I can see for miles and miles
Oh yeah"

back in a flash..

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