And see to me, it's akin to buying a part for a car or the other shoe in a pair. You expect them to match because they are supposed to be compatible with each other. While the part may fit on the car and the shoe may fit on your foot, if they don't look the same it causes discontent. If DF were a lower competitor in the RPG terrain market I would give them a pass, but as stated on the top of the screen "Devoted to Making the World's Finest Gaming Terrain." Inconsistency is hurting my image of that. I love the sculpts and I don't have the time to paint unpainted, so I buy painted. When I've spent over $8k over 3 kickstarters on this stuff, I expect a lot. I'm not buying a plaster HA set off of ebay. (No offense to Bruce, just using cheap casters/painters as an example)jchunick wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:53 pmHere's my own take on it (see my signature, as well)... to me, that's pretty much why there's painted and unpainted. Painted, in my mind, gives a couple of benefits to potential customers: the ability to buy the product and have it all ready to go out of the box; this is especially important to those who do not paint. Otherwise, you have all the options in the world to paint it yourself how you like.AnimeSensei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:08 pmTo be blunt, I don't care about "real-world" affects on stone and color, I care about modularity and compatibility with my various sets. Different colors distracts from their visual compatibility. I understand the need for different themes, however. I wish I could use my KS1 dungeons more with my CBS stuff without the jarring change in paint scheme. If it were different companies' products, I would 100% understand, but it's the same company. Even the narrow passages in KS2 and KS3 were painted different and had a different dwarvenite color but they used the same mold. I get complaining doesn't help anything, but I just want consistency.bernyleung wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:12 pmI think it's ok to have/use a lighter shade of base grey for KS4 (and KS3, for that matter). After all, in KS3/4 we are talking about fieldstone and quarried rocks for buildings that are exposed to the elements, and would be lighter due to constant sun exposure.
KS1/2/5 environments don't really see the light of day (generally), so would likely be slightly darker. Wetter environments even more so.
All that being said, I agree that consistency is important as well. I would expect that colour choices are consistent between sets, but not necessarily across all sets. For instance, wanting the CBS floor to be a lighter colour would be a design choice by the company and yes, the company should be making that decision since it's their product. In some cases it's my personal belief that the base colour of the dwarvenite was probably predicated on removing a step in painting, and this seems to me to have been made during production.
Personal preferences and opinions aside, this all seems rather reasonable to me.
I don't mean to complain, I mean to constructively criticize. This -NEEDS- be be cleared up and addressed. I thought it was a big enough issue during KS3 fulfillment with the size, grid, and colorgate issues that KS4 would have less problems in these aspects. I feel the scope was too great and we ended up with a lot of problems that should have been caught. Pac-man, paint colors, magnet strength, the bridges and tower adapters (big metal parts), round battlement stability, etc. DF is a small company and I get that, but they spent an extra 5 months on this stuff past the original fulfillment date (that they had never missed before!) due to in part some re-engineering of parts that apparently weren't up to snuff. Obviously QC was being done. Sorry for the bluntness, but while I'm happy I have my castle, I'm not happy after spending over $4k on it I have to mod/paint it to correct issues that should have been caught. I love DF and Stefan, I just feel over the past 2 kickstarters we've had so many set compatibility issues that it's jarring to me. To me it's as if my resin cavern sets and my resin cavernous passage sets didn't have the same paint scheme, or if one of the pieces in a resin set was a different color scheme than the rest of the set pieces.
Anyhoo, off my soapbox. Probably a topic better suited to the Known Issues thread. I'll go over there to post my issues. Again, I love DF and I will support their next KS but I'm highly frustrated that there are so many issues.