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Price in the webstore

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:27 am
by Mushu_Green
How much do you think will be the retail price in the webstore comparative to what it was in the kickstarter?

I'm already anxious about the shipping :/

Re: Price in the webstore

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:43 am
by Vegomatic
Tbe castle sets went around 15% higher in the store... some a little more some less...

Re: Price in the webstore

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:06 am
by DevGuy
Really, I see a lot of 10% or less, and on your own site veg!

http://dwarven-forge-collector-catalog. ... ng_History

Re: Price in the webstore

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:31 am
by dice4hire
There is very little markup KS/Retail, or very little savings, depending on which side you look at it from.

Re: Price in the webstore

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 11:58 am
by Rabbit Burner
Random picks showing KS price v Store price and the percentage increase - (shipping not included)

Unpainted
KS Store %
Erinthor Mountains 280 308 10
The Count's Castle 585 639 9
The Royal Stronghold 1500 1625 8

Painted
KS Store %
Erinthor Mountains 385 424 10
The Count's Castle 790 849 7.5
The Royal Stronghold 1950 2090 7

Remember for US customers there is no shipping charge during the KS

So our conclusion is it is still better to buy during the KS - you can also guarantee its in stock too :)

EDIT: you can also rely on the formatting of this post being screwed :(

Re: Price in the webstore

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 12:22 pm
by Vegomatic
I stand corrected! Was working from faulty memory...

Re: Price in the webstore

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 2:45 pm
by Talistran
Rabbit Burner wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 11:58 am
Random picks showing KS price v Store price and the percentage increase - (shipping not included)

Unpainted
KS Store %
Erinthor Mountains 280 308 10
The Count's Castle 585 639 9
The Royal Stronghold 1500 1625 8

Painted
KS Store %
Erinthor Mountains 385 424 10
The Count's Castle 790 849 7.5
The Royal Stronghold 1950 2090 7

Remember for US customers there is no shipping charge during the KS

So our conclusion is it is still better to buy during the KS - you can also guarantee its in stock too :)

EDIT: you can also rely on the formatting of this post being screwed :(
I would argue that "you can also guarantee its in stock too" is the only sound, legitimate reason you demonstrated in your post for reasons to buy during the kickstarter; there are other good reasons, you just didn't list them.

10% off of retail plus shipping is not a great return on your investment. It is pretty good though. But anyone who is investing thousands into DF could make more money by waiting to buy at retail and investing their capital for the year prior, earning significantly more than 7-10%. But A) they would never be able to get anything they want at retail, they would be limited to the leftovers and B) they wouldn't be supporting the creation of this new product. But financially, it does not make sense to prepay and wait, tying up your funds.

Anyways, it seems to be a good enough reason for many; however, the trend is lower and lower incentives (less % off from retail pricing AND significantly less "stretch goals") for lending our money to DF for a year. I hope this trend does not bite them in the ass, as I really enjoy the product. I personally buy during the kickstarter because of A&B above, but that will not be true of everyone... especially those that believe that 7% is worth paying 15% on their credit cards ;)

Re: Price in the webstore

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 3:00 pm
by GardenDM
Talistran wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 2:45 pm
Rabbit Burner wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 11:58 am
Random picks showing KS price v Store price and the percentage increase - (shipping not included)

Unpainted
KS Store %
Erinthor Mountains 280 308 10
The Count's Castle 585 639 9
The Royal Stronghold 1500 1625 8

Painted
KS Store %
Erinthor Mountains 385 424 10
The Count's Castle 790 849 7.5
The Royal Stronghold 1950 2090 7

Remember for US customers there is no shipping charge during the KS

So our conclusion is it is still better to buy during the KS - you can also guarantee its in stock too :)

EDIT: you can also rely on the formatting of this post being screwed :(
I would argue that "you can also guarantee its in stock too" is the only sound, legitimate reason you demonstrated in your post for reasons to buy during the kickstarter; there are other good reasons, you just didn't list them.

10% off of retail plus shipping is not a great return on your investment. It is pretty good though. But anyone who is investing thousands into DF could make more money by waiting to buy at retail and investing their capital for the year prior, earning significantly more than 7-10%. But A) they would never be able to get anything they want at retail, they would be limited to the leftovers and B) they wouldn't be supporting the creation of this new product. But financially, it does not make sense to prepay and wait, tying up your funds.

Anyways, it seems to be a good enough reason for many; however, the trend is lower and lower incentives (less % off from retail pricing AND significantly less "stretch goals") for lending our money to DF for a year. I hope this trend does not bite them in the ass, as I really enjoy the product. I personally buy during the kickstarter because of A&B above, but that will not be true of everyone... especially those that believe that 7% is worth paying 15% on their credit cards ;)
I think we're in agreement that the KS has the massive advantage of guaranteeing availability.

I would quibble with your statement that it does not make financial sense to prepay.

Let's be generous and ignore shipping. Where can I find a guaranteed 12-month return equal to or greater than the 10% savings? Since this is money I'll need in a year to buy DF when it hits the store, I'll need to pay taxes on it, likely capital gains.

KS Price: $3000
Store Price: $3300

Investment: $3000
Investment Returns (10%): $300
Taxes: $100 (taxes on gains)

I'm left with $3200 to spend on the equivalent $3300 worth of stuff in the store...if I can get 10% investment returns...otherwise things are even less balanced.

Now...if I'm paying interest on a cc, the whole equation changes, but this is a pay now vs invest and pay later comparison.

Edited a few words to make my point clearer.

Re: Price in the webstore

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 4:47 pm
by dice4hire
Those are all high end items. Is it the same for lesser items?

Re: Price in the webstore

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:32 pm
by DevGuy
dice4hire wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 4:47 pm
Those are all high end items. Is it the same for lesser items?
Check out the link I provided. Teach a man to fish...