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Re: KS6 Launch Date

Post by William » Mon May 28, 2018 3:29 am

If I'm being honest, I couldn't care less how "playable" the pieces are. I only use DF for pictures at this stage in my meager existence. I really like how kodiakbear said it above. :)

Specialized pieces up to large generic floors, I just want it all to look ultra-cool and make any shape I can imagine.

I guess it would be good if you can create the maps of every dungeon/cavern module designers sell. When it comes to skirmish gaming compared to RPG. Skirmishers need to get what is usable for that style of play (open spaces+). RPGers can use those pieces, but they would be very limited on intricate layouts if they're purchase was limited to those type of pieces. So, I think RPG's require more variety, to get that quirky dungeon design. Adding some floor packs (few different packs) for variety could accomplish a lot of the skirmishers desire for open spaces. two-pence ;)
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Re: KS6 Launch Date

Post by pacarat » Sun May 27, 2018 8:02 pm

period3 wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 2:13 pm
Me too. It'll be a while before I can use this stuff for roleplaying, and open spaces are much easier to incorporate into e.g. skirmish games.
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Sun May 27, 2018 11:45 am
Agree on the open space versus narrow twisty passages. For the same reason I did many more of the larger burrow intersection pieces and fewer tunnels, and bought extra catacomb floors.
Skirmish gaming is my usual arena, as opposed to rpg. I want terrain to support 3-5 bands numbering 8-15 figs, plus a bunch of randomly encountered critters, with a combination of open areas, elevation changes, a few choke points here and there, lots of small bits of terrain to interfere with lines of sight.

The beauty of DF is the capability to tailor to just about every possible need.

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Re: KS6 Launch Date

Post by Seraphis the Bland » Sun May 27, 2018 5:35 pm

kodiakbear wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 4:02 pm
I like my caverns to be like caverns.


Which is to say I like my caverns to have large rooms and twisty claustrophobic passages, small rooms and wide passages. I like them wet and I like them dry, I like them flat and I like them with elevation. I like the ease of throwing down 2x2 tiles fast but I also want small advanced tiles and large special tiles. I want it all so this weeks cavern is not the same as next monthes cavern, I want options in Dwarvenite Caverns and if I had a huge huge table I would want to fill it full of caverns and I would also want to fill it with tons of winding passages because both are great fun, and if the game is fun the space is never wasted.


More options, that is what I want from KS6.
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Re: KS6 Launch Date

Post by ShaynePatrick » Sun May 27, 2018 4:28 pm

kodiakbear wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 4:02 pm
I like my caverns to be like caverns.


Which is to say I like my caverns to have large rooms and twisty claustrophobic passages, small rooms and wide passages. I like them wet and I like them dry, I like them flat and I like them with elevation. I like the ease of throwing down 2x2 tiles fast but I also want small advanced tiles and large special tiles. I want it all so this weeks cavern is not the same as next monthes cavern, I want options in Dwarvenite Caverns and if I had a huge huge table I would want to fill it full of caverns and I would also want to fill it with tons of winding passages because both are great fun, and if the game is fun the space is never wasted.


More options, that is what I want from KS6.
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Re: KS6 Launch Date

Post by kodiakbear » Sun May 27, 2018 4:02 pm

I like my caverns to be like caverns.


Which is to say I like my caverns to have large rooms and twisty claustrophobic passages, small rooms and wide passages. I like them wet and I like them dry, I like them flat and I like them with elevation. I like the ease of throwing down 2x2 tiles fast but I also want small advanced tiles and large special tiles. I want it all so this weeks cavern is not the same as next monthes cavern, I want options in Dwarvenite Caverns and if I had a huge huge table I would want to fill it full of caverns and I would also want to fill it with tons of winding passages because both are great fun, and if the game is fun the space is never wasted.


More options, that is what I want from KS6.

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Re: KS6 Launch Date

Post by period3 » Sun May 27, 2018 2:13 pm

Me too. It'll be a while before I can use this stuff for roleplaying, and open spaces are much easier to incorporate into e.g. skirmish games.
pacarat wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 11:45 am
Agree on the open space versus narrow twisty passages. For the same reason I did many more of the larger burrow intersection pieces and fewer tunnels, and bought extra catacomb floors.

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Re: KS6 Launch Date

Post by jgt4242 » Sun May 27, 2018 12:21 pm

Same here. Prefer open environement. A good look is cool, but usefulness is better. As someone who will get for about only 800$ of Dungeon of Doom stuff because I think original dungeon lacked flairs a bit, the return to caverns got to be REALLY great. New water pieces will be appreciated, but I'm eager to see everything. To me, the original caverns sets already avalaible from KS2 are not lacking at all for what I use them for. I predict KS6 will cost me between 300$ to 400$ at most. Only way I think KS6 could cost me more is if they bring on a really cool sub-theme. KS4 costed me around 200$...if I'm not counting the Erinthor Mountains set that is.

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Re: KS6 Launch Date

Post by pacarat » Sun May 27, 2018 11:45 am

Agree on the open space versus narrow twisty passages. For the same reason I did many more of the larger burrow intersection pieces and fewer tunnels, and bought extra catacomb floors.

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Re: KS6 Launch Date

Post by unclebilly » Sun May 27, 2018 10:18 am

Law wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 7:41 am
unclebilly wrote:
Sat May 26, 2018 8:29 am
I like a lot of people do not want stuff that was offered in previous a KS. I have plenty from them. The store has them if people want them that is what a KS is for to pay for the making of the molds. What I want in new stuff to add to the other KS. I have gone up in my backing each KS starting from KS 1 with $1500 all the way to KS 5 with $7000. That is it I am caped out now and it will be hard pressed for me to convince myself to spend a lot on this KS.
Commas, people, commas! I spent a minute thinking "you like a lot of people? you like a lot of people who do not want stuff that was previously offered? did you mean to say you THINK a lot of people don't want that stuff, or did you meant to say you like THAT a lot of people don't... OH, you meant that YOU, LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE, DON'T..."

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Re: KS6 Launch Date

Post by Law » Sun May 27, 2018 9:55 am

Personally, not only do I want the bling without taking out a second mortgage, I'm also looking forward to stuff that hasn't been shown yet, but has been hinted at.

I'm not wild about the designs of the new cavern pieces. I don't LIKE a lot of complexity, it means I have to fumble through too many specific pieces to find what I want, and it limits what I can do (because in order to make something I need piece X, so to get enough of what I want I have to buy 15 of piece X, but that means I almost never use 10 of them because I only needed them for that one idea, so I have to jettison that idea, etc. etc. etc.) And I don't like having to bring 15 boxes out of storage any time I want to build anything. No, I much prefer simple engineering, with just "drop the pieces and put them next to each other" and minimal puzzling about this way and that. (Even though, I admit, finding unintended and unexpected ways to puzzle things together can yield exciting results, and sometimes the coolest layouts feature unanticipated combinations and uses of pieces...)

PLUS, on equal footing, I like my caverns to have a large footprint. A lot of twisty, claustrophobic passages may be realistic, and may look awesome, but it's not my preferred approach. It leaves a lot of table space unused, so it's inefficient, and it makes it harder to cram STUFF in there -- characters, monsters, treasure, objects. I want to place stalagmites and shrines and statues and purple worms and stuff in my layouts -- narrow claustrophobic spaces make it harder. I like the original resin cavern design -- larger pieces, open spaces, good balance between flexibility and ease of use.

We've been told that the new caverns will have a mix -- some small, puzzle-type pieces for complex builds, but also some larger pieces. I really really really like the bigger pieces. And to the extent I'm excited for KS6, it's for the promise of those.

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