KS5 - Magnets in bases

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Re: KS5 - Magnets in bases

Post by Harneloot » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:53 pm

I am so glad I switched my DoD order at the last minute to Magnets as I had wavered strongly until the very end! :D

Any idea how strong the the magnets you used are compared to the stock DF factory magnets?

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Re: KS5 - Magnets in bases

Post by GardenDM » Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:34 pm

@kitenerd - Thank you for the update and the demo.

I have magnetized DoD pieces that I've played with and those completely sold me on magnets. I'll probably go back and magnetize some old stuff. Sewers seems like a great place to start since they're kind of fiddly with the separate walls, floors, and channels to juggle. The early (non double-sided) chasm ledges from KS2 would also benefit from this.

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Re: KS5 - Magnets in bases

Post by Kryzsko » Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:16 pm

kitenerd wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:37 pm
OK - I am officially a convert!

Just magnetized a trial set of caverns and sewers (which have lots of bits and really benefit from sticking together) and i am going to order a ton of more magnets and magnetize EVERYTHING

IMG_8051.JPG

terrible picture, but this is a terrain tray held VERTICALLY with my sewers and caverns bits on it

game changer for me who lacks the area to leave anything set up

I used 10mm x 2mm ZD2 and 7/16" x 1/32" ZD701 from K&J magnetics

ZD2 = 25 for 8.50 (surplus)
ZD701 = 20cents each

I also have a sample coming from eBay that were half that price - which considering how many hundreds i need might be worth waiting extra time for

my experience - there is a LOT of variation in the recesses on the bottom of the pieces - it doesn't matter - the magnets do not need to be flush, the field is strong enough that they hold

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i put them on with a glop of glue the size of a pea (gorilla contruction adhesive) and pushed them until they sank in - made sure they were flatish and below the tile edges with a popsicle stick which i passed over in both directions in profile like a level

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that is a significant gap and the only piece i had that fell off (held vertically which is not how i intend to use my DF!) was one of the wavy cavern walls (which are pretty heavy) - i only used one magnet on each piece

The big thing is having enough space to lay out pieces to dry - while it didn't happen to me - i can see magnets jumping out of the glue to hang out with their friends - these are strong little magnets!

thanks to those who blazed this trail - this is really making DF much more practical for me to use
Thanks for this. I have a lot of the old stuff I needs to put magnets on.

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Re: KS5 - Magnets in bases

Post by kitenerd » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:47 pm

sorry for double pics - my first vertical picture posted horizontally so i just reshot it cause it was terrible anyway

i was just excited that it worked and wanted to let others know how easy it was - i did 50 pieces last night in less than an hour
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Re: KS5 - Magnets in bases

Post by kitenerd » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:37 pm

OK - I am officially a convert!

Just magnetized a trial set of caverns and sewers (which have lots of bits and really benefit from sticking together) and i am going to order a ton of more magnets and magnetize EVERYTHING
IMG_8051.JPG
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terrible picture, but this is a terrain tray held VERTICALLY with my sewers and caverns bits on it

game changer for me who lacks the area to leave anything set up

I used 10mm x 2mm ZD2 and 7/16" x 1/32" ZD701 from K&J magnetics

ZD2 = 25 for 8.50 (surplus)
ZD701 = 20cents each

I also have a sample coming from eBay that were half that price - which considering how many hundreds i need might be worth waiting extra time for

my experience - there is a LOT of variation in the recesses on the bottom of the pieces - it doesn't matter - the magnets do not need to be flush, the field is strong enough that they hold
IMG_8045.JPG
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i put them on with a glop of glue the size of a pea (gorilla contruction adhesive - edit: this failed - seeking other glue) and pushed them until they sank in - made sure they were flatish and below the tile edges with a popsicle stick which i passed over in both directions in profile like a level
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that is a significant gap and the only piece i had that fell off (held vertically which is not how i intend to use my DF!) was one of the wavy cavern walls (which are pretty heavy) - i only used one magnet on each piece

The big thing is having enough space to lay out pieces to dry - while it didn't happen to me - i can see magnets jumping out of the glue to hang out with their friends - these are strong little magnets!

thanks to those who blazed this trail - this is really making DF much more practical for me to use
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Re: KS5 - Magnets in bases

Post by Thunder » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:53 pm

My local Home Depot had precut 12 x 12 inch "weldable steel" in 22 gauge for $6 each. I looked for 20 gauge but they did not have it.

The 22 gauge does flex a bit, but certainly not enough to worry about. Magnets stick quite well to it, so does Blu-Tak which I might use instead of magnets. The edges are a bit sharp, but a quick run around the edge with a file ought to fix that quick. I will also likely round the corners a bit.

Printed or painted fabrics to cover this is likely preferable, from both a visual and handling aspect - but then of course the Blu-Tak won't work.

Damn, now look what you got me started on! :)

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Re: KS5 - Magnets in bases

Post by astolat » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:55 am

Thunder wrote:
Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:35 am
I wonder how easy it would be to print 12x12 acid/lava/water textures on fabric. Of course instead of doing all this I may as well just buy the DF terrain trays....
You can print any digital texture file you have on a variety of fabrics at spoonflower. That said, I am also reaching the same conclusion, the only reason I wouldn't just get the DF trays is because having gotten the idea I now want them immediately, lol.

Stormfury, would you be able to post a pic of a side view of the tray and maybe tiles on a tray next to tiles not on a tray? Just wondering about thickness -- IIRC Nate said 22ga is what the DF trays are, but oddly the 20ga is cheaper (on metalsdepot anyway) and presumably can support even more weight, so would go with that if it doesn't "bump" too much.

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Re: KS5 - Magnets in bases

Post by Thunder » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:35 am

We are moving further and further from the topic "KS5 - Magnets in Bases". :)

I also like the roiling boil look, it's active, aggressive and organic looking. The fabric texture really helps with the illusion.

Oldent - wonderful stuff yer doing there, especially the felt painting. I might try some of that myself.

I wonder how easy it would be to print 12x12 acid/lava/water textures on fabric. Of course instead of doing all this I may as well just buy the DF terrain trays....

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Re: KS5 - Magnets in bases

Post by William » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:50 am

Although I do like the roiling look of the acid bath itself.
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Re: KS5 - Magnets in bases

Post by Oldent » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:44 am

Thunder wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:35 pm
That's great, thanks for the reply.

I could probably use a Dremel to round the corners a bit. Looks like i ought to make an order myself.

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A file would work better. The sharp edge of the sheet metal will cut sandpaper. A hand held round power tool sander will bonce and possibly ruin the straight edge.

Dremel has some nice accessories. I have the tool sharpener. I don't use it. I have a large flat mill bastard file I use for lawnmower blades, axes, grass knives and such.I have a set of small hobby files too.

If you have the proper Dremel accessories by all means use them.
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